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    Mojochachee

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    Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Mojochachee on Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:12 pm

    Well no one burned down the barn this weekend with their performance as a matter of fact it was the nut low for a couple of reasons.

    1. I played a deck with Aven Mindcensor......that card is straight up garbage outside of the t1 GW budget deck. To top it off I didn't play with 3 artifact lands in my build which would have won me a couple of games alone if I had them.
    2. Erik punted an almost unloseable match against Ryan Durney.... (sorry Erik)
    3. Ben was playing a NonBo in his Bloodmoon deck....
    4. My toughest match was against a GIRL who cast browbeat no less than two times in each of our three games....after the match I had to sit and watch her boyfriend berate her for losing a game he didn't even watch...awk.
    5. Noah got dream crushed by his own water bottle.....that's probably the worst......
    6. Adam played the deck that you all bagged on and performed the best..Good job Adam. (What was your final record?) Seriously though don't play that garbage again.

    So lets put it behind us and focus on this weekend and get someone the blue envelope or at the very least in the t8.

    I will not be rocking Jace the Mind Sculptor this weekend even though I did get the fantastic opportunity to Jace someone out in rd 2.

    It's going to be this.....

    1 Academy Ruins
    4 Dark Depths
    1 Dimir Aqueduct
    2 Island
    4 River of Tears
    4 Sunken Ruins
    2 Swamp
    3 Tolaria West
    3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    24 lands

    4 Dark Confidant
    4 Vampire Hexmage
    8 creatures

    4 Chrome Mox
    1 Compulsive Research
    2 Duress
    1 Echoing Truth
    1 Engineered Explosives
    4 Muddle the Mixture
    1 Repeal
    1 Smother
    2 Sword of the Meek
    4 Thirst for Knowledge
    3 Thopter Foundry
    4 Thoughtseize
    28 other spells

    Sideboard
    4 Chalice of the Void
    3 Darkblast
    1 Echoing Truth
    4 Leyline of the Void
    1 Oona, Queen of the Fae
    2 Threads of Disloyalty
    15 sideboard cards

    OR... This.....


    1 Academy Ruins
    3 Dark Depths
    3 Island
    4 River of Tears
    1 Seat of the Synod
    4 Sunken Ruins
    1 Swamp
    2 Tolaria West
    3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    1 Vault of Whispers
    23 lands

    4 Dark Confidant
    3 Trinket Mage
    4 Vampire Hexmage
    3 Vendilion Clique
    14 creatures

    1 Aether Spellbomb
    1 Chalice of the Void
    4 Chrome Mox
    1 Engineered Explosives
    3 Muddle the Mixture
    1 Pithing Needle
    1 Slaughter Pact
    1 Smother
    4 Thirst for Knowledge
    4 Thoughtseize
    2 Umezawa's Jitte
    23 other spells

    Sideboard
    2 Darkblast
    2 Duress
    2 Extirpate
    1 Gatekeeper of Malakir
    1 Into the Roil
    1 Smother
    2 Sower of Temptation
    3 Threads of Disloyalty
    1 Umezawa's Jitte
    15 sideboard cards

    My only thought about the second list is that I would either want to play with a single Sigil of Distinction or Basilisk Collar (firststriking deathtouching lifelinkers are decent)

    Justin is probably going to be rocking the GB Depths Build and Mike Gemme will probably be trying to combo off with the elves.

    Soo....What are we playing, what are we missing, what is your SB plan and what can be done to improve any of the above.

    Are you guys play testing this Wednesday?

    Also....this is Andy
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Chris on Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:43 pm

    This lists are both fine, is collar really better than just running jitte #2?

    Elves seems to outperforming most of the other "best decks" right now.
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  adamt on Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:22 pm

    i ended up at 5-1-2. the game i lost or the ones i drew were mainly due to my inexperience with the matchups with that deck more than my deck being outclassed.. im tweaking the list a little but im still playing it in Ctown. a few more muddles, negates in the board over thoughtsiezes.. and perhaps either a basic swamp (that can be fetched with paths) or a blue artifact land.

    the second list of yours looks the most interesting..
    u/w thopter was out in force this past weekend and that deck puts a whole world of hurt on the Dark depths version of it. i wouldnt be going anywhere near a DDT deck for the coming ptq's as there is soo much hate being put in for them (dampening matrixes and leylines/extirpates) that the better decks will be prepared for it. for crissakes, i saw the guy i drew with in rnd 4 lose the next round to someone with 4 main deck extirpates... wtf?

    I honestly think that if you know the deck well and can pilot it through the various matchups, you'll be better suited with a list that can't be recited card for card by most people and they won't know how to respond or what to tutor for.

    i think you'd be better off putting the thopter combo into the trinket mage shell than dark depths. having an endgame where you gain life and stabilize the board creature wise vs boros/zoo is much better imho than randomly being able kill them with a 20/20 on turn 2/3/4 every once in a great while. everyone is running white for paths or bant charms. V Cliques were an mvp for me and i cant tell you how many times i threw the sword onto one to prevent it from dying to race whatever they had on the ground.

    watching that guy berate his girlfriend was pretty painful. almost as painful as they guy who watched his girlfriend give away the match to me with a draw when there were multiple times she could have won and misplayed. He just sat there while she did it and I looked at him and we both knew she had misplayed but weren't saying anything.

    the top 8 at the tj's ptq was really janky though....

    -2 elves lists that never combo'd off to win, just aggro'd and attacked (at least in the matches i watched of theirs).. and the pilots themselves could barely walk/talk through the steps for the combo (which was probably why they rarely went for it).

    1 deathcloud... pretty much a bye for any deck with blue in it

    1 hive mind.. same as above.. runs over aggro decks, but dies to a spellstutter sprite

    1 u/w thopter/tezz - the deck to play that day.. beats aggro and beats DDT... im assuming this guy won as i left as the top 8 was starting

    1 g/b/x deck that looked like it was either dark zoo or a bad rock deck.

    1 scapeshift deck (u/g/r).. the kid that lucked me out of the running.. who was litterally shaking when he was playing his top 8 match he was so nervous.

    1 deck i cant remember...

    there was a ton of zoo and thopter depths there but they all seemed to get hated out by the later rounds by either the combo decks or the u/w thopter tez decks.
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Conelead on Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:33 pm

    I would gladly play Red Faeries again. I felt like the deck was fine, I just got paired against Boros twice, which is a horrid matchup. Still, no deck in this format has all good matchups, so if you want good matchups you have to have bad ones too. Sometimes I think the pairing gods have it out for me.
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Mojochachee on Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:47 pm

    I hear you....I played against MonoWhite round one and got my spell mana tithed........that was a little demoralizing....

    Fucking spectral procession in extended.....what kind of a world do i live in?
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Conelead on Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:50 pm

    Mojochachee wrote:I hear you....I played against MonoWhite round one and got my spell mana tithed........that was a little demoralizing....

    Fucking spectral procession in extended.....what kind of a world do i live in?

    That wasn't mono-white martyr?
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Mojochachee on Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:54 pm

    just mono white haterator.
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Conelead on Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:55 pm

    Weird. Well, you should still play Red Faeries. As long as you avoid getting paired twice against Boros you should be okay. Check out the Faeries thread for my list.
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Robert Goulet on Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:43 pm

    Mojochachee wrote:I hear you....I played against MonoWhite round one and got my spell mana tithed........that was a little demoralizing....

    Fucking spectral procession in extended.....what kind of a world do i live in?

    Yeah I know that guy who beat you with Mono-White Weenie: his name is Brandon and I know him from when I lived in Vermont. Brandon always brings some homebrew or atleast something under the radar and tends to go like 4-4 at these events. He's a good guy and brings these interesting decks but they lack consistency.

    I will be playing Dredge on Saturday as I am convinced it is an extremely powerful deck. This next time I'll be sure to mulligan all of the 1-landers. Several times last Saturday (probably 3 three times, actually) I picked up a hand with two crabs, ideas unbound, one land, some other irrelevant stuff, and kept it. 2 x Crab + Ideas Unbound is the God Hand - it is the hand that lets me win on Turn Two as long as I have a second land. The problem was I always assumed I would draw a second land soon and I never did, which isn't surprising in a deck with only 19 land.
    No more 1-landers for Mr. Goulet.
    The Krosan Grips in the SB worked out quite well; I am thinking about keeping them over Maelstrom Pulse. The great majority of Dredge heat is an artifact or enchantment that sits in play while I have priority. Grip is the way to go.

    I cannot playtest on Wednesday as I am delivering Oral Argument in Moot Court that night. Do people want to get together Tuesday or Thursday? I am happy to host people over my place.




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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  adamt on Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:26 pm

    i can test any night this week...

    does anyone happen to have or want to build/proxy up the elf deck?

    they will be out there this weekend and the biggest issue is really knowing how the elf deck works so you know how to attack it.
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  E-$$$ on Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:20 am

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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Conelead on Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:25 am

    adamt wrote:i can test any night this week...

    does anyone happen to have or want to build/proxy up the elf deck?

    they will be out there this weekend and the biggest issue is really knowing how the elf deck works so you know how to attack it.

    Elves is easy - stop Heritage druid and deal with the beatdown.

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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Guest on Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:30 am

    I'll be playing Scapeshift again. I think my list is set. I just need to practice sideboarding some more and not play like a donkey. I believe I should be able to test tomorrow.
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  adamt on Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:41 am

    anyone want to test at Pandy tonight?

    they have tons of empty tables as they aren't doing Pokeman there on Tues anymore.
    When Jared, Ben and I were there last week it was wide open.

    I can bring Affinity, RDW and ThopterFae...

    could prolly proxy up elves also
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Winterhalter on Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:01 am

    I'm in favor of testing Wednesday or Friday.

    Playing Blood Moon Zoo again, this time without the silly Paths main.

    I'm short:
    1 Arid Mesa
    1 Verdant Catacombs
    4 Lightning Helix

    I still have:
    Ghost Quarter, Cannonist and Grudge from Jared
    Fallout from Wesley
    1 Arid Mesa each from Chingsung, Noah, and Andy
    Tarmogoyf, Temple Garden, and Sacred Foundry from Noah
    Noble Hierarch from Erik
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Chris on Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:15 am

    I have the helix's that you can borrow for this weekend. I'm up for testing tomorrow.
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Conelead on Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:22 pm

    I r haz fetches. I will be hanging out at Panda before class tomorrow, so if you come I will likely see you there.

    Eh, I had a UW control list that I was working on that I abandoned because it just felt like it wasn't doing anything broken. Still, perhaps you can tweak it a bit to your liking and end up with something good. The original intention was to avoid the hate and it worked reasonably well but I got topdecked out a lot in testing, which bothered me.

    3x Baneslayer Angel
    2x Glen-Elendra Archmage
    3x Kitchen Finks
    2x Trinket Mage

    2x Vedalken Shackles
    3x Cryptic Command
    1x Pithing Needle
    1x Chalice of the Void
    1x Tormod's Crypt
    2x Engineered Explosives
    1x Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    4x Ancestral Vision
    4x Mana Leak
    4x Path to Exile
    3x Spell Snare

    2x Scalding Tarn
    2x Misty Rainforest
    1x Marsh Flats
    1x Seat of Synod
    1x Ancient Den
    4x Mystic Gate
    4x Hallowed Fountain
    1x Watery Grave
    1x Academy Ruins
    1x Ghost Quarter
    2x Plains
    5x Island

    Sideboard:
    1x Baneslayer Angel
    1x Kitchen Finks
    3x Tormod's Crypt
    3x Relic of Progenitus
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  adamt on Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:49 pm

    SO.....

    is anyone interested in testing tonight also?

    i may head to either panda if people are meeting up or YMG if noone is so i can harass the sealed deckers there into drafting or testing extended.
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  adamt on Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:52 pm

    Conelead wrote:I r haz fetches. I will be hanging out at Panda before class tomorrow, so if you come I will likely see you there.

    Eh, I had a UW control list that I was working on that I abandoned because it just felt like it wasn't doing anything broken. Still, perhaps you can tweak it a bit to your liking and end up with something good. The original intention was to avoid the hate and it worked reasonably well but I got topdecked out a lot in testing, which bothered me.

    3x Baneslayer Angel
    2x Glen-Elendra Archmage
    3x Kitchen Finks
    2x Trinket Mage

    2x Vedalken Shackles
    3x Cryptic Command
    1x Pithing Needle
    1x Chalice of the Void
    1x Tormod's Crypt
    2x Engineered Explosives
    1x Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    4x Ancestral Vision
    4x Mana Leak
    4x Path to Exile
    3x Spell Snare

    2x Scalding Tarn
    2x Misty Rainforest
    1x Marsh Flats
    1x Seat of Synod
    1x Ancient Den
    4x Mystic Gate
    4x Hallowed Fountain
    1x Watery Grave
    1x Academy Ruins
    1x Ghost Quarter
    2x Plains
    5x Island

    Sideboard:
    1x Baneslayer Angel
    1x Kitchen Finks
    3x Tormod's Crypt
    3x Relic of Progenitus
    1x Wrath of God
    1x Day of Judgment
    3x Runed Halo
    2x Celestial Purge

    change mana leaks to muddles, AV to thirsts, baneslayer to thopter, arcmage to sword and you have the u/w deck what top 8'd last weekend.
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  jdoucette24 on Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:40 pm

    i wasnt around for tonight but im totally free for tomorrow night. when and where? is YMG available on wednesday nights not that those yu gi oh fools arent allowed?
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Winterhalter on Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:47 pm

    What would be the advantage of testing at YMG?
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  jdoucette24 on Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:56 pm

    purely for space
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  adamt on Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:57 pm

    well, i was debating going there tonight as they had a sealed deck tournie on tues nights..

    afaik, there is only warhammer goin on at YMG on Wed...
    but standard is at Panda... im sure we could get a table or two there though.

    im up for wherever to test.. just need to know where by 5pm on Wed
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  Winterhalter on Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:08 am

    I suppose either is fine with me, ultimately, though I hear Pandy has more extended stuff for sale.
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    Re: Charlestown PTQ

    Post  jdoucette24 on Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:13 am

    ill bring my stuff to work tomorrow so im ready to go. pandy is more appealing for me than YMG. I bet we could definitely get a table or two.

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